Time ago I had a Roomba 560 with an Error 5.
The problem was the power supply used to charge the battery.
Time to try to fix it.
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Sunday, November 11, 2012
Roomba 4xx test batteries - manual
Having a lot of Roomba batteries for the series 4xx (third and fourth generation), before to trash them in the recycle kit I just received, I needed a way to see if a battery is good or bad.
To test a battery there are some steps to follow :
- measure the voltage of the battery - if below 15V the battery can have problems
- discharge the battery
- charge the battery
- discharge the battery on a calculated load - it should last a fixed amount of time depending the type of the battery. At least 1 hour for the older NiCd
Using the external iRobot charger modified (for manual), I did set up this environment.
The dis-charger is a 12V lamp.
I'm experimenting with a 12V 50W and a 12V 34W lamps.
I'm experimenting with a 12V 50W and a 12V 34W lamps.
Building
Building the contraption is easy.The only trick is to pay attention to the polarity of the wires.
It would be great to use red/black cables, but as usual I use whatever I have around in my junk box.
Here I'm using a 12V 50W lamp, but as soon as I find a socket for the other lamp, I'll try to use the 12V 34W lamp.
The ideal it would be to use a load that simulates the Roomba load. People doing this before me estimated that a 12V 25W lamp is a perfect load.
One of these days I'll try in different places to find the lamp, for now this is what I have around.
Because of that, there is really not need of the Switch B, since is enough to put the switch A in the Off position to measure the battery voltage with no load.
But for "logical" reasons, the Switch B still exists.
Let say that "Switch A in Off position", is equivalent to say "Switch B open".
Operations
In order to see if a battery is OK or not, here Step by Step list of things to do.
- set the Switch A on Off (or set the Switch A to connect the battery to the dis-charger and set the Switch B of the dis-charger open).In this way is possible to measure the voltage of the battery without load.
- put the battery on the battery holder of the iRobot external charger.Low reading at this stage can already indicate if a battery is dead.A healthy battery should give a reading around at least 14.4V.
- set the switch A on dis (Dis-charger) or set the Switch B On.Simply keep connect the battery to the dis-charger until the lamp is on.When the lamp goes off :
- if lasted at least an hour for the NiCD and two hours for the NiMH the battery is OK (assuming a load of 12V 25W, less for bigger loads)- if last less the battery is not good anymore, however at least one charge cycle must be performed before to decide the battery is no good.
Go to the point 4 if the battery needs to do at least a charge cycle - toggle the Switch A to connect the battery to the charger.
If the battery has a chance to be OK, the battery charger is engaged (green LED ON).
The charge operation can last up to three hours, depending the type of battery.
- If the green LED flash, the battery must be dead. Discard it.
- If the green LED goes OFF in few minutes, the battery could be dead.
Check if the battery is warm. If not the charger refused to charge it. The battery is dead.
- If the green LED goes OFF after at least 1 hour (black battery) or 2 hours or more (yellow battery), go back to the point 1
External iRobot battery charger modifications - manual
In order to test the Roomba 4xx series battery, it is needed a battery tester.
The ultimate goal is to design an automatic gadget, but first some experiments are needed.
More articles will follow.
The test battery project, uses different components.
The most important is the battery charger.
Instead to design one from the scratch, I decided to use the external iRobot charger model 02004, out of production for some time now but still available on eBay and modify it.
Battery charger
As usual, before any modifications ...
CAUTION !
The modifications make void any guarantee and are potentially dangerous !
If you are not sure about what you are doing, DON'T DO IT !
CAUTION !
The modifications make void any guarantee and are potentially dangerous !
If you are not sure about what you are doing, DON'T DO IT !
There are some advantages to use it.
- the battery charger circuit is already done
- it provides mechanical support for the battery
- it provides an optimal electrical connection to the battery
However it is not perfect. It was designed mainly for the traditional NiCd batteries, not the NiMh (APS - yellow ones).
It can charge them but it requires TWO charges (see the 02004 technical description by G. Plews )
Anyway, the first thing to do is to modify it in order to be able to connect the battery to the dis-charger and the voltmeter.
Battery charge modifications
The idea is to bring out the battery connectors, in order to connect the battery to the charger or to the dis-charger and the voltmeter.
To open the unit, there are 6 screws on the bottom, 4 of them hidden under the rubber pads.
Once removed the screws the upper half of the charger separates from the base.
The electronics is anchored to the base.
There are two set of wires going in the upper shell.
Two wires are for the LED, and three wires are for the battery.
The three wires are the negative (black wire), the positive (red wire) and the thermistor feedback (blue wire).
To "bring out" the battery connections, I used a 4 pins audio connector (Radio Shack mod. 274-0002).
The choice of the connector was mostly due to what I was able to find to the local Radio Shack, it is enough for testing manually the batteries, for an automatic way more signals are needed to be brought out.
The maximum current involved is less than 5 A, so this connector is perfect for the usage.
Pins usage :
- + from battery
- - from battery
- - from charger
- + from charger
The plug used with this connector is the Radio Shack mod. 274-0001.
The idea is to disconnect the 3 wires going to the electronic below, from the PCB with the micro-switches (only the positive and negative connections) and connect them to the connector.
The charger with the connector.
With this modification I can now connect the battery to the charger, putting together the battery wires with the charger wires, or connect the battery to a dis-charger.
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